tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post782938232441384517..comments2023-09-02T12:29:45.592-04:00Comments on Had Enough Indy ?: BZA Decisions Impact Our Community In Tangible Ways - Parking In Broad RippleHad Enough Indy?http://www.blogger.com/profile/09673791504434523246noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-37494659189496715292011-08-08T16:00:23.476-04:002011-08-08T16:00:23.476-04:00What happened to the coverage of MSD Decatur schoo...What happened to the coverage of MSD Decatur schools? Did they clean up their act? School starts tomorrow.....all wonderful and good?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-35025252843390811832011-07-30T11:59:37.372-04:002011-07-30T11:59:37.372-04:00You're still missing the point. Every time a ...You're still missing the point. Every time a portion of a building changed use, it required a new variance. Unless you've somehow decided that 1987 was some magical point in time when Broad Ripple was 'perfect,' it's safe to assume that variances occurred all the way back to the time when they weren't required. If you say no new variance should be permitted after some period in time, use of the space is eliminated for places that don't have zoning acceptable parking, and none do. It's really the form of the building that creates the problem, but, I'm guessing you, like the folks in Broad Ripple who're developing their form based code, actually want that form of building, and expect it to be used. The trick, I suspect, is to create a zoning code that reflects the unavailability of parking so that a variance is requires in only truly egregious circumstances. Or, perhaps you secretly desire to live in Carmel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-27983067556228622872011-07-30T09:29:15.161-04:002011-07-30T09:29:15.161-04:00anon 8:27 -- the variances from which I could get ...anon 8:27 -- the variances from which I could get # of spaces waived, reach back to 1987. The interurban was long gone by then. The earliest I could even locate that mentions parking was 1979 - hardly the whip and buggy days.<br /><br />No, these spaces were waived during a time that we all should have known better.Had Enough Indy?https://www.blogger.com/profile/09673791504434523246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-66757484563094325872011-07-30T08:27:00.359-04:002011-07-30T08:27:00.359-04:00What you're saying, of course, is that these b...What you're saying, of course, is that these buildings should never have been built with such density, and, if we followed the current zoning structure, they couldn't have been built the way they are. While it's true that a lot of Broad Ripple was built in the era of the automobile, they weren't built in the era of the modern automobile, and certainly not in an era when most people owned a couple of them. In fact the last time public transportation worked well in Indianapolis, it worked because people without autos were willing to pay to ride trolleys from the inner city to Broad Ripple and Meridian Kesler.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-70060246222308984542011-07-30T07:30:24.670-04:002011-07-30T07:30:24.670-04:00find me three businesses on Broad Ripple Ave betwe...find me three businesses on Broad Ripple Ave between College and Winthrop. that don't have a parking variance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-77353162923938978062011-07-30T07:25:25.676-04:002011-07-30T07:25:25.676-04:00fire the bza and start over. enough is enough. its...fire the bza and start over. enough is enough. its all about party time for young people and bikers making noise so i cant sleep at 2pm. there is no peace in the neighbor hood any moreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-33894084963388042002011-07-29T21:33:55.792-04:002011-07-29T21:33:55.792-04:00Anon said,
"Broad Ripple, like most of the o...Anon said,<br /><br />"Broad Ripple, like most of the older commercial areas in Indianapolis were developed in an era when parking was unnecessary, because there were few automobiles."<br /><br />Exactly when do you think Broad Ripple really developed...the 19th Century? Do you think Broad Ripple was built for the horse and buggy era? Do you think people were walking? Your time frame is way off. Broad Ripple grew up around the automobile.Paul K. Ogdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16137003328850866711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-64095791812943827202011-07-29T18:22:12.833-04:002011-07-29T18:22:12.833-04:00Of course there would be businesses there. They j...Of course there would be businesses there. They just would have to provide the parking. Instead of the residents' spots getting used and now the taxpayers paying to make new spots.<br /><br />They could have created underground parking, just as one for instance.<br /><br />If they think they can get a pass on a regulation, they'll do it. That's what been happening.Had Enough Indy?https://www.blogger.com/profile/09673791504434523246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-4421551652515715152011-07-29T14:28:50.854-04:002011-07-29T14:28:50.854-04:00I think you're missing the question of whether...I think you're missing the question of whether any business could operate at a given location in any form without a parking variance. Broad Ripple, like most of the older commercial areas in Indianapolis were developed in an era when parking was unnecessary, because there were few automobiles. Conversely, the current parking requirements, to avoid a variance request, assume that your business is being developed in a cornfield. If there had been no variances granted over the period you're explored, is there any reason to believe there would be any commercial entities in Broad Ripple?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-11786615898962846302011-07-29T09:33:18.751-04:002011-07-29T09:33:18.751-04:00For the sake of accuracy, the current petition wou...For the sake of accuracy, the current petition would replace a waiver of 62 parking spaces with a waiver of 82 spaces.<br /><br />At some point, waiving parking spaces must sink in as not being of benefit to the community.<br /><br />How about this - they kick in the cost to the taxpayers of 20 parking spaces in the new garage? That would be $362,000. If you accept the total cost of the parking garage to be $15 m, then the tab comes to $857,000.Had Enough Indy?https://www.blogger.com/profile/09673791504434523246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1826828000189814347.post-87853526750556408482011-07-28T21:26:52.075-04:002011-07-28T21:26:52.075-04:00Don't forget the 100+waiver Kilroy's will ...Don't forget the 100+waiver Kilroy's will be asking for in August.Blog Adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15900497671781531454noreply@blogger.com